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"And though I’m a fan of late antiquity I also can’t help feeling that the idea that the dark ages were “a time of light and reason akshully” has become just as much of an annoying cliché as the idea that the dark ages were incredibly dark and that nobody had a single worthwhile thought for five hundred years."

I think a lot depends here on what you call "the dark ages". If you think that everything between Constantine and the Renaissance was a cultural desert, then you are obviously wrong - late antiquity (let's say, the 4th and 5th centuries AD) has incredible cultural and intellectual riches, and so do the high Middle Ages (let's say, late 11th-early 14th centuries). But if - which is more plausible - you narrow it down to Western Europe between (let's say) the fall of the Western Empire in 476 and the crowning of Charlemagne as Emperor in 800, then one has a much fairer point - there is a massive diminution in intellectual and cultural life in those centuries.

My experience is that a lot of the arguments on these questions are at cross purposes, because one person says "The Dark Ages were a miserable cultural desert", and another says - "No they weren't - what about Ausonius? what about Dante?", not realizing that they're actually talking about different periods. There is also the question of place: Islamic culture flourished in North Africa and the Middle East while Western Europe was languishing; Byzantium also had a much richer cultural life at that time. But I don't think Procopius or al-Kwarizmi should count as proofs that there was no Dark Ages in Western Europe!

But in that case, one has to accept that, while there was an obvious qualitative difference between the Renaissance and what went before, someone like Greenblatt arguably overstates the difference Poggio's rediscovery of Lucretius made to the general culture - we shouldn't be contrasting the 15th century with the 8th century, but with what went immediately before.

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I wonder if some of the nonfiction sales decline is also due to the shrinking of the midlist, which in turn leads to lower advances for nonfiction writers, which — in theory — could lead to nonfiction writers having less time & fewer resources for research, which makes for books that aren't as satisfying as they might be.

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